elliptic
05-11 06:17 PM
I tried to apply for the SSN for my wife and my child about 6 weeks ago.
As expected, the officer refused even to accept the application ("H4 don't get
SSNs"). I would have submitted the application by mail, but this is not
possible since I have to show my passport to prove that I am legaly in the
country. I insisted that I have a legal reason to apply and even if she thinks
this is not a legal reason, they have to accept the application.
The head of the local office finally accepted the applications. I was told
that the regional office thinks that the Stimulus Payment is not a federal benefit.
One week later the application was declined. The reason given was
that "the SSA doesn't issue SSNs for tax purposes." I had included with
my application a cover letter with the relevant parts of the law and why I
think the SSA should issue the SSNs.
I will now ask for reconsideration. If the SSNs are still declined, I am not sure
about the legal process. Normally, there are two more levels before
a social security case goes to court. One can ask for reconsideration
by an administrative law judge. I think this doesn't cost anything for me,
but I am not sure if this also applies to cases like applying for SSNs.
(Usually it is about the payment of benefits.)
There seems to exist something like a legal definition of federal benefits
(see Wikipedia). I am not sure if the Stimulus Payment would satisfy
this definition and if this definition is the one used in the social security act.
To bring the case to court is quite useless since when the case is decided,
it is to late. One needs the SSN in 2008.
As expected, the officer refused even to accept the application ("H4 don't get
SSNs"). I would have submitted the application by mail, but this is not
possible since I have to show my passport to prove that I am legaly in the
country. I insisted that I have a legal reason to apply and even if she thinks
this is not a legal reason, they have to accept the application.
The head of the local office finally accepted the applications. I was told
that the regional office thinks that the Stimulus Payment is not a federal benefit.
One week later the application was declined. The reason given was
that "the SSA doesn't issue SSNs for tax purposes." I had included with
my application a cover letter with the relevant parts of the law and why I
think the SSA should issue the SSNs.
I will now ask for reconsideration. If the SSNs are still declined, I am not sure
about the legal process. Normally, there are two more levels before
a social security case goes to court. One can ask for reconsideration
by an administrative law judge. I think this doesn't cost anything for me,
but I am not sure if this also applies to cases like applying for SSNs.
(Usually it is about the payment of benefits.)
There seems to exist something like a legal definition of federal benefits
(see Wikipedia). I am not sure if the Stimulus Payment would satisfy
this definition and if this definition is the one used in the social security act.
To bring the case to court is quite useless since when the case is decided,
it is to late. One needs the SSN in 2008.
Lasantha
06-19 04:48 PM
See the bold text. Because the bill is yanked out, amendments are added to the bill and now it is going to be put back as a new bill.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation_2.cfm
The Senate's Second Secret Immigration Bill
by The Heritage Foundation
FYI
For weeks, Americans were told that there are only two options for dealing with the nation's illegal immigration problem: stay with the status quo or accept a "grand bargain"--a tenuous behind-closed-doors deal, first made public by The Heritage Foundation, which contained nearly 800 pages of flawed policies. In the face of overwhelming criticism from all sides, this legislation was withdrawn from the Senate.
Now, an altogether new bill (S. 1639) has been introduced by Senators Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter. It seems to incorporate the previous legislation, with some amendments. After it is read into the Senate calendar on Wednesday, the Majority Leader will be able to proceed to consider this legislation anew at any time; debate is likely to follow later this week, with a final vote very soon thereafter.
This schedule will afford lawmakers even less time for consideration and deliberation than they had before. It will deny them the various procedures long associated with America's deliberative lawmaking process--hearings, testimony, committee debate and amendments, floor debate, and the possibility of further amendments. Instead, according to reports, this legislation will proceed based on an altogether new and expedited procedure designed for the sole purpose of forcing the bill's many ill-conceived policies over legitimate minority objections.
As it has before, for the sake of open deliberation and public education, The Heritage Foundation is making this legislation publicly available to encourage widespread debate and discussion. Heritage Foundation analysts will be reading this legislation and considering its implications--as will everyone outside the confines of the narrow group that conceived it--as quickly as possible.
So if this bill is introduced as a new one with a new bill number, does that May 15th provision still stand? Or is it now gonna be June 19th ?
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation_2.cfm
The Senate's Second Secret Immigration Bill
by The Heritage Foundation
FYI
For weeks, Americans were told that there are only two options for dealing with the nation's illegal immigration problem: stay with the status quo or accept a "grand bargain"--a tenuous behind-closed-doors deal, first made public by The Heritage Foundation, which contained nearly 800 pages of flawed policies. In the face of overwhelming criticism from all sides, this legislation was withdrawn from the Senate.
Now, an altogether new bill (S. 1639) has been introduced by Senators Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter. It seems to incorporate the previous legislation, with some amendments. After it is read into the Senate calendar on Wednesday, the Majority Leader will be able to proceed to consider this legislation anew at any time; debate is likely to follow later this week, with a final vote very soon thereafter.
This schedule will afford lawmakers even less time for consideration and deliberation than they had before. It will deny them the various procedures long associated with America's deliberative lawmaking process--hearings, testimony, committee debate and amendments, floor debate, and the possibility of further amendments. Instead, according to reports, this legislation will proceed based on an altogether new and expedited procedure designed for the sole purpose of forcing the bill's many ill-conceived policies over legitimate minority objections.
As it has before, for the sake of open deliberation and public education, The Heritage Foundation is making this legislation publicly available to encourage widespread debate and discussion. Heritage Foundation analysts will be reading this legislation and considering its implications--as will everyone outside the confines of the narrow group that conceived it--as quickly as possible.
So if this bill is introduced as a new one with a new bill number, does that May 15th provision still stand? Or is it now gonna be June 19th ?
lakewalker
10-05 03:53 PM
I plan to come but what is the street address of the recreation area?
PlainSpeak
03-28 03:01 PM
Please Donate to IV Advocacy or particpiate in the Advocacy in person. Thsi si for your own benefit and you are working for your own green card
There now are you happy :D:D
There now are you happy :D:D
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unitednations
03-23 05:38 PM
I would not agree with your interpretation. You are insinuating that a majority of the EB based green cards sponsored by employers are similar to family sponsored green card and also that people are favoured for their nationality.....how did you arrive at this conclusion?
Possibly your exposure may be limited to mom and pop shops and that may be the basis of your analysis....!!
Working in a "regular" company and having the authority to hire people in my department, "nationality" thoughts have never crossed my mind....!!!
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. It's pretty much an open secret that staff augmentation firms (which take up a pretty good amount of h-1 and GC) are involved in nepotism and filing for their own country people.
Possibly your exposure may be limited to mom and pop shops and that may be the basis of your analysis....!!
Working in a "regular" company and having the authority to hire people in my department, "nationality" thoughts have never crossed my mind....!!!
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. It's pretty much an open secret that staff augmentation firms (which take up a pretty good amount of h-1 and GC) are involved in nepotism and filing for their own country people.
nixstor
05-06 03:27 PM
Here is a web page that lists IRS media contacts (http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=97242,00.html) and they respond pretty quickly.
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grimreaper
06-02 12:04 AM
Good Idea!!!
Make AF flight crew wait it out in some mosquito infested lounge for 10 hours before clearing their immigration. Call it something like quarantine for French swine flu or something. But do give them a bottle of water and enough spicy Indian food. :D
Repeat this at random for a few weeks. AF will be paid back in Euros :D.
BTW, I used to stay in France (and Holland 98-2000) and had a fairly good experience when I was there. Never really felt any racial discrimination. Only thing that they want you to do in France is try to speak French that's it.
I bear no ill will to the French or the other EU folks. This is a fight with the Airline and let's keep the discussion to that. :)
Make AF flight crew wait it out in some mosquito infested lounge for 10 hours before clearing their immigration. Call it something like quarantine for French swine flu or something. But do give them a bottle of water and enough spicy Indian food. :D
Repeat this at random for a few weeks. AF will be paid back in Euros :D.
BTW, I used to stay in France (and Holland 98-2000) and had a fairly good experience when I was there. Never really felt any racial discrimination. Only thing that they want you to do in France is try to speak French that's it.
I bear no ill will to the French or the other EU folks. This is a fight with the Airline and let's keep the discussion to that. :)
needhelp!
04-29 05:45 PM
Thank You to IV members who are contributing:
gconmymind-51, snathan-50, smanikandan-100, ahasan-100, MunnaBhai-100, vineet-100, rameshk75-50, mariusp-35, gcfordesi-50, belmontboy-100, Houstonguy-200, vikasw-50, kshitijnt-100, pune_guy-100, walking_dude-100, prasha98-100, ivvm-50, manojp4-100, Pineapple-100, sammyb-50, ca_gc-100, santb1975-100, nav_saini-100, gcpadmavyuh-100, pcs-100, akbose-100, eastwest-50, ubetman-100, pmurgai-100, deba-100, 5-Jun-100, wa_Saiprasad-100, chaukas-100, arunmohan-50, jimytomy-100, aspiration-50, prshah102-100, czar_the_king-100, maverick6993-100, eb3_nepa-100, kumar_77-50, Alien-100, nagio-100, vin13-100, manja-100, loti_GC-50, sonaliak-100, mdmd10-100, surabhi-100, m306m-100, malaGCPahije-100, patbose-50, clif-100, goel_ar-50, djit71-100, Jitamitra-100, rajtp-100, espoir-50, rp0lol-100, kicca-50, rajmalhotra-100, anuraj1234-100, yetanotherguyinline-100, MI member 1-100, MI member 2-100, NolaIndian32-50, poreddyp-100, Karthikthiru-100, pshah-100, tapukakababa-100, h1techSlave-100, uffyegc-100, rameshk75-50, Nagireddi-100, srinivas_o-100, nc14-50, aa2aa-100, add78-100, jbr-100, jayleno-100, naidu2543-50, vansvenkat-100
Statewise:
ca--1401
tx--1050
mi--650
nj--450
va--400
fl--335
il--300
wa--300
ny--200
al--200
ma--200
co--200
az--150
oh--150
mo--150
sd--100
sc--100
pa--100
mn--100
ky--100
in--100
ga--100
wi--100
md--100
nc--50
delaware--50
la--50
tn--50
gconmymind-51, snathan-50, smanikandan-100, ahasan-100, MunnaBhai-100, vineet-100, rameshk75-50, mariusp-35, gcfordesi-50, belmontboy-100, Houstonguy-200, vikasw-50, kshitijnt-100, pune_guy-100, walking_dude-100, prasha98-100, ivvm-50, manojp4-100, Pineapple-100, sammyb-50, ca_gc-100, santb1975-100, nav_saini-100, gcpadmavyuh-100, pcs-100, akbose-100, eastwest-50, ubetman-100, pmurgai-100, deba-100, 5-Jun-100, wa_Saiprasad-100, chaukas-100, arunmohan-50, jimytomy-100, aspiration-50, prshah102-100, czar_the_king-100, maverick6993-100, eb3_nepa-100, kumar_77-50, Alien-100, nagio-100, vin13-100, manja-100, loti_GC-50, sonaliak-100, mdmd10-100, surabhi-100, m306m-100, malaGCPahije-100, patbose-50, clif-100, goel_ar-50, djit71-100, Jitamitra-100, rajtp-100, espoir-50, rp0lol-100, kicca-50, rajmalhotra-100, anuraj1234-100, yetanotherguyinline-100, MI member 1-100, MI member 2-100, NolaIndian32-50, poreddyp-100, Karthikthiru-100, pshah-100, tapukakababa-100, h1techSlave-100, uffyegc-100, rameshk75-50, Nagireddi-100, srinivas_o-100, nc14-50, aa2aa-100, add78-100, jbr-100, jayleno-100, naidu2543-50, vansvenkat-100
Statewise:
ca--1401
tx--1050
mi--650
nj--450
va--400
fl--335
il--300
wa--300
ny--200
al--200
ma--200
co--200
az--150
oh--150
mo--150
sd--100
sc--100
pa--100
mn--100
ky--100
in--100
ga--100
wi--100
md--100
nc--50
delaware--50
la--50
tn--50
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thomachan72
07-21 08:54 AM
I really can understand how you and the thousands like you feel. Let me however point out something. All those who got to file the 485 now have just put their name in the que. When you join the que by filing 485 you will move much ahead of most. Having said this, I still feel that this is not a proper way that USCiS should be handling cases and we should send a strong message that when there are cases to be dealt with they shouldn't be ignored and over run. I am not affected by this situation and am neither a beneficiary of this July bulletin, but very very strongly support your point. Please consult with IV leaders and get their opinion on this issue. They have been fighting for all our issues and I am sure they will have a plan of action to deal with this too. Wishing you all the best and hoping all our members support you. ONLY A CRYING BABY GETS MILK. thats how this world works.
bestin
10-19 01:17 PM
Chanced upon this forum while searching for something this week. Kudos to you all, your drive is amazing!
Count me in. Will be there tomorrow at 10AM.welcome Tamoul. Thats the spirit.
Count me in. Will be there tomorrow at 10AM.welcome Tamoul. Thats the spirit.
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qualified_trash
06-30 11:07 AM
The only positive I can take from this is that it will remove most if not all the US masters degree holders from the general queue.
It may take time but atleast for people such as myself (direct H1B in 1999), we can move up in the queue.
I sincerely hope that IV supports this initiative.
It may take time but atleast for people such as myself (direct H1B in 1999), we can move up in the queue.
I sincerely hope that IV supports this initiative.
GotGC??
04-09 05:28 PM
With your credentials, you'll have no problem landing a job. Our best wishes & prayers are with you.
Please check your PM & e-mail.
Financial applications - FI research. BTech Comp Sc IITBombay'96 9 years exp. Currently a part time NYU Masters student in Maths
Please check your PM & e-mail.
Financial applications - FI research. BTech Comp Sc IITBombay'96 9 years exp. Currently a part time NYU Masters student in Maths
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furiouspride
07-22 11:27 AM
Again its personal choice, desire and necessity.
"Exactly because of these rude attitude of Hindi People I never speak hindi."
This is the choice you're talking about? :D
"Exactly because of these rude attitude of Hindi People I never speak hindi."
This is the choice you're talking about? :D
stucklabor
03-17 09:33 AM
see the link
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:105:./temp/~bd3JRR::
So, we should fight for this bill since it does not deal with the controversial guest worker program.
Great work, Zheng0821. This is a great backup vehicle for EB provisions.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:105:./temp/~bd3JRR::
So, we should fight for this bill since it does not deal with the controversial guest worker program.
Great work, Zheng0821. This is a great backup vehicle for EB provisions.
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chmur
11-17 02:33 AM
I understand the need to gain grassroots strength, But at the same time I expect that IV core members to do better than arbitrary curt responses directing everyone to state chapter on this forum.
I am sure IV core do better, like for example, well crafted sticky memo explaining the need for state chapters/grassroots strength and dangers of remaining only an internet based group of anonymous members and why agenda of the IV will not be discussed or revealed in this forum. There was one good post explaining this.
Such a professional explanation is required to gain the respect of the newcomer on this forum and his views and at the same time promoting IV objectives.
IV and rest of us need each other to get this huge problem fixed.
I am sure IV core do better, like for example, well crafted sticky memo explaining the need for state chapters/grassroots strength and dangers of remaining only an internet based group of anonymous members and why agenda of the IV will not be discussed or revealed in this forum. There was one good post explaining this.
Such a professional explanation is required to gain the respect of the newcomer on this forum and his views and at the same time promoting IV objectives.
IV and rest of us need each other to get this huge problem fixed.
dsairam
08-17 01:30 PM
I saw lot of posts above saying good things about them however my experience with them has been bad. I am assumng this is Fragomen, Del Rey, Bernsen & Loewy, LLP we are talking about.
There have been a couple things in the past but the most frustrating one was that even though I sent them all my papers etc. by Jun 20th (so that they can file it on July 2nd) they did not file my case until Aug 08. They are my corporate lawyers so I don't have any choice. Also, they asked us not to contact regarding status during this period as they were really busy. While not responding to status queries was understandable, they still took more than a month to file cases. I confirmed with a lot of my colleagues who were in the same boat and were equally frustrated with noncommunication and taking so long to file the cases. They also were not maintaining any apparent first come first serve queue because there were several folks who got their filings done much sooner than others who had sent complete paperworks way before them.
Based on my experience, I wouldn't recommend them.
There have been a couple things in the past but the most frustrating one was that even though I sent them all my papers etc. by Jun 20th (so that they can file it on July 2nd) they did not file my case until Aug 08. They are my corporate lawyers so I don't have any choice. Also, they asked us not to contact regarding status during this period as they were really busy. While not responding to status queries was understandable, they still took more than a month to file cases. I confirmed with a lot of my colleagues who were in the same boat and were equally frustrated with noncommunication and taking so long to file the cases. They also were not maintaining any apparent first come first serve queue because there were several folks who got their filings done much sooner than others who had sent complete paperworks way before them.
Based on my experience, I wouldn't recommend them.
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GTGC
09-19 09:03 PM
My wife and I got involved with IV activities/volunteering about 2 months before the rally....and we are very glad we did!
Its been a very rewarding and learning experience....after meeting with the lawmakers- it has fortified our belief in IV and renewed our enthusiasm about the process. After reading Logiclife's post I am convinced that active participation is the key to achieving success!
We plan on continuing our efforts - turning sceptics into believers - it is especially needed in the DC/VA/MD!
Cheers!!
Its been a very rewarding and learning experience....after meeting with the lawmakers- it has fortified our belief in IV and renewed our enthusiasm about the process. After reading Logiclife's post I am convinced that active participation is the key to achieving success!
We plan on continuing our efforts - turning sceptics into believers - it is especially needed in the DC/VA/MD!
Cheers!!
yabadaba
03-05 02:43 PM
http://www.jingchenglaw.com/frontend/successstories/I_140_01.jpg
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485.pdf
also in the 485 form, please take a look on the right hand side where it says uscis use only....thats where they have "country chargeable," and I guess they are right that they make the determination during adjudication.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485.pdf
also in the 485 form, please take a look on the right hand side where it says uscis use only....thats where they have "country chargeable," and I guess they are right that they make the determination during adjudication.
pappu
11-09 03:43 PM
TheOmbudsman,
A number of IV members have complaint about your posts. We know that you have earlier posted on IV forums with the screen names �Communique� and �marlon2006�. If I remember correctly, your handle 'Communique' was banned but it was pretty clear that you were an anti-immigrant. I want you to read this post because in next 15 minutes, I will be putting a ban on your handle.
Immigration Voice forums are created for high skilled immigrants and their families. We contribute constructively to the society. Your hate mongering tone and disguising as 'someone waiting for green card' is pathetic example of how low you can go. I try to read forums everyday and I try to read each and every post. Each day I try to read your post to get more determined to continue to work on this very important issue. But now, I think its time for you to leave IV forums as your tone is again becoming offensive and your posts drive legitimate IV members away.
We are requesting you politely to please leave IV forums alone and do not bother IV members.
Thank you,
WaldenPond
Good call. This was waiting to happen. It also applies to others on the forums who create handle names without their full contact information and post anti immigration, anti IV or offensive messages.
A number of IV members have complaint about your posts. We know that you have earlier posted on IV forums with the screen names �Communique� and �marlon2006�. If I remember correctly, your handle 'Communique' was banned but it was pretty clear that you were an anti-immigrant. I want you to read this post because in next 15 minutes, I will be putting a ban on your handle.
Immigration Voice forums are created for high skilled immigrants and their families. We contribute constructively to the society. Your hate mongering tone and disguising as 'someone waiting for green card' is pathetic example of how low you can go. I try to read forums everyday and I try to read each and every post. Each day I try to read your post to get more determined to continue to work on this very important issue. But now, I think its time for you to leave IV forums as your tone is again becoming offensive and your posts drive legitimate IV members away.
We are requesting you politely to please leave IV forums alone and do not bother IV members.
Thank you,
WaldenPond
Good call. This was waiting to happen. It also applies to others on the forums who create handle names without their full contact information and post anti immigration, anti IV or offensive messages.
singhsa3
07-17 09:58 PM
Some of the core members are also stuck in BEC. But they still worked selfleshly. And don't preach injustice to me, I came here to study in 1999, got one labor (PD 2002) rejected on technical grounds, went in for other labor PD 2005, so my situation is probably worse than you.
Most people showing their cool wisdom still not getting the point. A BEC person with Feb 2005 PD may not be able to file for another 2 years while a PD 2007 person will be enjoying EAD during that time. In my dictionary this is injustice. And that's why i was kinda happy when they updated the July bulletin, now I'm not really happy even if my company has already filed my 485/EAD on july 2. I'm still wishing (and i'll be honest) USCIS come up with a reason/regulation/rule that will delay EAD for everyone until BEC people are able to file 485 OR in Oct they retrogress only till March 2005.
P.S. if you are superstitious, you want to know this: most of my relatives/freinds call me "Black Tongue" because usually when i say something unpleasent it happens. e.g. i told my wife last month that i don't believe everyone is able to file 485, something will go wrong and everyone will be disappointed. (when everyone expects something it does not happen- contrarian theory)
Most people showing their cool wisdom still not getting the point. A BEC person with Feb 2005 PD may not be able to file for another 2 years while a PD 2007 person will be enjoying EAD during that time. In my dictionary this is injustice. And that's why i was kinda happy when they updated the July bulletin, now I'm not really happy even if my company has already filed my 485/EAD on july 2. I'm still wishing (and i'll be honest) USCIS come up with a reason/regulation/rule that will delay EAD for everyone until BEC people are able to file 485 OR in Oct they retrogress only till March 2005.
P.S. if you are superstitious, you want to know this: most of my relatives/freinds call me "Black Tongue" because usually when i say something unpleasent it happens. e.g. i told my wife last month that i don't believe everyone is able to file 485, something will go wrong and everyone will be disappointed. (when everyone expects something it does not happen- contrarian theory)
rajsand
09-20 12:03 PM
I am sure the awareness and the seriousness was missing among the locals!!
Educate them , that more imp.. this has to be worked on!
One thought I have is.. if we register people with a minimum amount and reimburse them at the day of the rally, many will turn up..!
I know of cases where people agreed to show up but when the d-day came by.. not one ticked!!
Educate them , that more imp.. this has to be worked on!
One thought I have is.. if we register people with a minimum amount and reimburse them at the day of the rally, many will turn up..!
I know of cases where people agreed to show up but when the d-day came by.. not one ticked!!
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