Jaime
09-04 07:15 PM
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05-29 07:11 PM
I flew Air France once in 2003. My connecting flight from Paris to Delhi got delayed by 12 hours. When I approached the Air France staff, they told me that since I had an Indian passport, I would have to wait out the entire time in the transit area. Meanwhile, they proceeded to make arrangements for other non-Indian passengers. They even refused to acknowledge my attempts to reason with them, either not replying to me, or replying only in French. I filed a formal complaint afterwards, but never got a reply.
I have travelled on numerous times since then, but never with Air France. I don't even consider them as an option anymore.
I had a similar experience in 2004 when I took Air France for the first time (to Delhi, connecting at Paris). It was the last time I ever took Air France.
I have travelled on numerous times since then, but never with Air France. I don't even consider them as an option anymore.
I had a similar experience in 2004 when I took Air France for the first time (to Delhi, connecting at Paris). It was the last time I ever took Air France.
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11-08 07:12 PM
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02-26 10:53 PM
I will be collecting some letters on Pioneer this weekend. Hopefully I can raise so.cal count from 34.
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desi485
09-29 05:39 PM
Experience with Air India
It is with great shame I bring out this piece to you about how Air India is using the "India" tag by cheating its innocent citizens and show its ugly real face. I have never seen anything so unprofessional and have no hesitation to say they are the worst airline in the world.
Passengers:
Father-in-Law (FIL) and Mother-in-Law with baby
My in-laws were returning to India via Air India on September 24th from EWR (Newark, NJ) airport after brief US visit.
Ticketing Experience:
We started the whole process 1 month earlier and contacted Air India (1800 223 7776) about the booking. First we got an answer saying that the class we booked in is full and we have to pay another 40$ per person for another segment. For that we had to call another AI booking# and after 40 mins on the call could reach an agent. We
got new confirmation #s and when asked for the basinet seat was told they could not see the seats and have a special request sent and asked me to call back in 3 days to confirm. We called like 5-6 times and everytime were told they cannot view the seats and when asked to see for seats in another segment or another date, we were told to
re-book again and then ask for seats. How on earth could an airline not see available seats in its aircraft.They have taken customer service to new digraceful level.I roped in my brother in law to go to AI office in Newark and try with an agent directly. Even after
going for 2-3 times directly to the AI office, my BIL failed to secure us the seats. After all the tries we were ultimately told to go to the Airport sooner on the travel date so we can get a basinet seat.
Journey Day:
On the date of the travel in-laws reached at 2:00 PM at the airport in hopes that they will get a basinet seat. The agent gave them a hard time and we had to go back n forth 2-3 times for getting the seats confirmed and have in-laws and baby seated together. I think the whole ticketing at the aiport is being handled by a third party who
are doing a horrible job. My FIL in the meanwhile buys a gift at the custom notified shops at EWR.The flight which was to depart at 6: 20 PM was ready for take off when all of a sudden the pilot says there is a technical problem (God knows what would have happened had the flight taken off). The flight returns to the gate and the passengers are told to wait until they fix the problem. They wait for 2 hours and are asked to then wait in the
boarding area until they really look into the technical problem. (In the meanwhile we hear on Indian TV channels that there is a Pilot strike going on in AI regarding Pilot pay package which adds to our tension). The Air India (airindia.com) website is for show off only with few flight images and had no flight status. We immediately call the AI office in Newark who have no-clue what is going on. When I asked the problem they said it is confidential and cannot be told:(. Eventually all the passengers are told that the flight has been
cancelled for the day and should return the next day and all the checked in baggage will be returned. My poor in-laws with baby had to return back and reached home at 3:00 AM in the morning.
The next day:
The next day the whole scene repeats again and we had to deal with the irritable AI ticket agents who say they are missing something at their whim. We were able to get a basinet seat this time also and happy we were all set for the 6:20 PM flight. This time we gave my FIL a pre-paid cell phone. The same thing repeats again. This time they wait in the boarding area and are told that the pilots have gone to repair the earlier (Sep 24) flight which had an issue. They wait patiently until 10:15 PM. We were all tensed here
and were expecting the flight to be cancelled this day also. No body from AI was available this day to pick-up and explain what is happening. The call re-directs to India who have no idea about the flight status in US. My FIL eventually calls at 10:30 PM and said that they will be boarding soon.
Frankfurt stop:
The flight has a stop at Franfurt and the passengers were asked to go to another terminal
for boarding the same aircraft. They had to go through the security check again and to my FIL's horror, the gift he bought at EWR duty free shop was not allowed and removed. When he showed the receipt they said that the gift has been bought in
US and cannot be allawed into the aircraft. :(Air India where are you and what a Maharaja experience.
Worst website ever:
In the mean while we keep checking the AI web site which I think is one of the worst web sites I have ever been to. I think that this contract is also being awarded to some third party with crores of tax payer money. we were looking for schedules of flight which departed on Sep 25 from Newark airport and here it shows th schedule of the 24th
flight.
Customer Service in Mumbai:
We tried to track the flight (if flightreached Mumbai) by calling AI desk in Mumbai. They had no idea and after repeated calls could reach an agent who made some research and
told that the flight has reached Mumbai and gave further schedule of the flight.
Flight reaches Hyderabad:
The flight reached Hyderabad after change of flight in Mumbai.
Luggage:
Some of the luggage was missing. To our horror the bags we got had stuff from some other people's bags. Please leave the luggage Air India.
Summary:
What a mess Air India. You have taken advantage of the "always yielding" Indians who prefer you for a home experience. Please remove the word "India" nd the "Maharaja" symbol as you are no longer fit for that.
Everyone makes mistakes. e.g. You are a veteran member (Join Date: Jan 2006) with IV and yet you posted this thread in wrong forum ..!!!
(Immigration Voice > I-485, EAD/AP application, renewal and related > Self-filing, documents, forms, directions, mailing. > Horrible Air India).
Why you expect that others MUST BE PERFECT when you are not? :p
It is with great shame I bring out this piece to you about how Air India is using the "India" tag by cheating its innocent citizens and show its ugly real face. I have never seen anything so unprofessional and have no hesitation to say they are the worst airline in the world.
Passengers:
Father-in-Law (FIL) and Mother-in-Law with baby
My in-laws were returning to India via Air India on September 24th from EWR (Newark, NJ) airport after brief US visit.
Ticketing Experience:
We started the whole process 1 month earlier and contacted Air India (1800 223 7776) about the booking. First we got an answer saying that the class we booked in is full and we have to pay another 40$ per person for another segment. For that we had to call another AI booking# and after 40 mins on the call could reach an agent. We
got new confirmation #s and when asked for the basinet seat was told they could not see the seats and have a special request sent and asked me to call back in 3 days to confirm. We called like 5-6 times and everytime were told they cannot view the seats and when asked to see for seats in another segment or another date, we were told to
re-book again and then ask for seats. How on earth could an airline not see available seats in its aircraft.They have taken customer service to new digraceful level.I roped in my brother in law to go to AI office in Newark and try with an agent directly. Even after
going for 2-3 times directly to the AI office, my BIL failed to secure us the seats. After all the tries we were ultimately told to go to the Airport sooner on the travel date so we can get a basinet seat.
Journey Day:
On the date of the travel in-laws reached at 2:00 PM at the airport in hopes that they will get a basinet seat. The agent gave them a hard time and we had to go back n forth 2-3 times for getting the seats confirmed and have in-laws and baby seated together. I think the whole ticketing at the aiport is being handled by a third party who
are doing a horrible job. My FIL in the meanwhile buys a gift at the custom notified shops at EWR.The flight which was to depart at 6: 20 PM was ready for take off when all of a sudden the pilot says there is a technical problem (God knows what would have happened had the flight taken off). The flight returns to the gate and the passengers are told to wait until they fix the problem. They wait for 2 hours and are asked to then wait in the
boarding area until they really look into the technical problem. (In the meanwhile we hear on Indian TV channels that there is a Pilot strike going on in AI regarding Pilot pay package which adds to our tension). The Air India (airindia.com) website is for show off only with few flight images and had no flight status. We immediately call the AI office in Newark who have no-clue what is going on. When I asked the problem they said it is confidential and cannot be told:(. Eventually all the passengers are told that the flight has been
cancelled for the day and should return the next day and all the checked in baggage will be returned. My poor in-laws with baby had to return back and reached home at 3:00 AM in the morning.
The next day:
The next day the whole scene repeats again and we had to deal with the irritable AI ticket agents who say they are missing something at their whim. We were able to get a basinet seat this time also and happy we were all set for the 6:20 PM flight. This time we gave my FIL a pre-paid cell phone. The same thing repeats again. This time they wait in the boarding area and are told that the pilots have gone to repair the earlier (Sep 24) flight which had an issue. They wait patiently until 10:15 PM. We were all tensed here
and were expecting the flight to be cancelled this day also. No body from AI was available this day to pick-up and explain what is happening. The call re-directs to India who have no idea about the flight status in US. My FIL eventually calls at 10:30 PM and said that they will be boarding soon.
Frankfurt stop:
The flight has a stop at Franfurt and the passengers were asked to go to another terminal
for boarding the same aircraft. They had to go through the security check again and to my FIL's horror, the gift he bought at EWR duty free shop was not allowed and removed. When he showed the receipt they said that the gift has been bought in
US and cannot be allawed into the aircraft. :(Air India where are you and what a Maharaja experience.
Worst website ever:
In the mean while we keep checking the AI web site which I think is one of the worst web sites I have ever been to. I think that this contract is also being awarded to some third party with crores of tax payer money. we were looking for schedules of flight which departed on Sep 25 from Newark airport and here it shows th schedule of the 24th
flight.
Customer Service in Mumbai:
We tried to track the flight (if flightreached Mumbai) by calling AI desk in Mumbai. They had no idea and after repeated calls could reach an agent who made some research and
told that the flight has reached Mumbai and gave further schedule of the flight.
Flight reaches Hyderabad:
The flight reached Hyderabad after change of flight in Mumbai.
Luggage:
Some of the luggage was missing. To our horror the bags we got had stuff from some other people's bags. Please leave the luggage Air India.
Summary:
What a mess Air India. You have taken advantage of the "always yielding" Indians who prefer you for a home experience. Please remove the word "India" nd the "Maharaja" symbol as you are no longer fit for that.
Everyone makes mistakes. e.g. You are a veteran member (Join Date: Jan 2006) with IV and yet you posted this thread in wrong forum ..!!!
(Immigration Voice > I-485, EAD/AP application, renewal and related > Self-filing, documents, forms, directions, mailing. > Horrible Air India).
Why you expect that others MUST BE PERFECT when you are not? :p
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07-05 11:31 AM
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kak1978
06-30 05:27 PM
I had a 2004 PD Labor RIR and my 2006 I-140 used that labor date, because I merely mentioned to an IO at TSC that I had a previously filed labor. My lawyer was shocked when it happened...had never seen it.
So, I wonder if they used your 2004 RIR as your PD. Even then EB 2 is supposed to be unavailable. Oh well, it might help to speak to an IO to get your I-140 PD changed...maybe...
EB2 India is current for April 2004. So may be they did use 2004 RIR as PD. Check with your lawyer, and see if they are aware of this.
So, I wonder if they used your 2004 RIR as your PD. Even then EB 2 is supposed to be unavailable. Oh well, it might help to speak to an IO to get your I-140 PD changed...maybe...
EB2 India is current for April 2004. So may be they did use 2004 RIR as PD. Check with your lawyer, and see if they are aware of this.
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willwin
03-14 11:23 AM
Thanks BharatPremi!
Appreciate your response. I have couple of questions/thoughts. Your logic is based on the fact:
1. Not MANY cases left with PD before 2003
2. 2003 and 2005 most cases moved over to EB2
3. In July 2007, PD moved over to June 2003
What about cases in 2004? not many?
And, the movement (to 2005) would happen only during last quarter of the FY when numbers overflow from other categories? Or under normal movement?
First Bullshit Period: 2003 - Realization that EB3-I will be dead slow - Sub
Labor black Market flourished mainly in NY, CA and TX.
We saw a new animal "Virtual Office". Lot of ethically and
morally(Now even legally) illegitimate transfers occured
from EB3 to earl PD based EB2.
Second Bullshit Period: 2005-JAN to APRIL is a key "Bullshit period" - As in
May PERM was gonna to be released, people
fanatically started preparations to switch over to EB2
using PERM. So maximum fence hopping done in this
period and continued till 2006 mid.
Fact: In june 2007 EB3-I was already reached to June 2003 as current PD.
So logically speaking once dates for EB3-I reaches to 2005 start mark then virtually it should not take long to reach to 2006 mid mark as EB3 numbers considerably reduced and with same amount EB2-I considerably increased so EB2- I will stuck for a very long long time once it reaches to 2005 start mark and Eb3-I will be moved with jet speed. Now we may have some EB3-I with PD before June 2003, it will surely be a stock from NC stuck - That is the only entity which you can not tag a number and hence the base of inaccurate prediction.So far so good. Considering all this I believe Eb3-I at least with PD 2004-mid should become current by the end of 2008 december.Last quarter of this year will be THE quarter for EB3-I
Other thing is unpredictable and abrupt decisions by USCIS, just like what it did during this April - So all in all, I think it (EB3-I) should reach to 2005 mark by 2009 mid.
Appreciate your response. I have couple of questions/thoughts. Your logic is based on the fact:
1. Not MANY cases left with PD before 2003
2. 2003 and 2005 most cases moved over to EB2
3. In July 2007, PD moved over to June 2003
What about cases in 2004? not many?
And, the movement (to 2005) would happen only during last quarter of the FY when numbers overflow from other categories? Or under normal movement?
First Bullshit Period: 2003 - Realization that EB3-I will be dead slow - Sub
Labor black Market flourished mainly in NY, CA and TX.
We saw a new animal "Virtual Office". Lot of ethically and
morally(Now even legally) illegitimate transfers occured
from EB3 to earl PD based EB2.
Second Bullshit Period: 2005-JAN to APRIL is a key "Bullshit period" - As in
May PERM was gonna to be released, people
fanatically started preparations to switch over to EB2
using PERM. So maximum fence hopping done in this
period and continued till 2006 mid.
Fact: In june 2007 EB3-I was already reached to June 2003 as current PD.
So logically speaking once dates for EB3-I reaches to 2005 start mark then virtually it should not take long to reach to 2006 mid mark as EB3 numbers considerably reduced and with same amount EB2-I considerably increased so EB2- I will stuck for a very long long time once it reaches to 2005 start mark and Eb3-I will be moved with jet speed. Now we may have some EB3-I with PD before June 2003, it will surely be a stock from NC stuck - That is the only entity which you can not tag a number and hence the base of inaccurate prediction.So far so good. Considering all this I believe Eb3-I at least with PD 2004-mid should become current by the end of 2008 december.Last quarter of this year will be THE quarter for EB3-I
Other thing is unpredictable and abrupt decisions by USCIS, just like what it did during this April - So all in all, I think it (EB3-I) should reach to 2005 mark by 2009 mid.
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peterpan
06-14 03:12 PM
And most people on this forum who rail against the treatment of Indians might want to think about why they left India in the first place. India is by and large an extremely unfair place to live. There is constant discrimination. We left because we wanted to lead a decent life without pandering to someone all the time. Everyone from India on this forum was fortunate enough to be educated enough that they could afford to make that choice. There are a billion people who can't make that choice. And they are in India. We chose to abandon them and come live among what we percieved to be a fairer society. And it is, in a lot of ways. Do not be hasty to judge through the glasses of pent-up frustration about your current circumstance. If you have a personal experience that you thought was not fair, tell them at that moment why it's not cool. And by and large, they will stop or at least empathize with you. Try that back in India - tell your local politician why you think he's not doing a good job and see how well that goes.
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GCBy3000
07-19 02:47 PM
rpatel,
Good you are in your late 20's. I am in my early 30's. Even 1-2 years makes huge difference for this GC. If I had the qualities of Gandhi, I would have not been here in this forum. Dont forget to call him as MAHATHMA Gandhi. I dont think there is even one MAHATHMA's here. All here are poor ATHMA's. Humans are great in adapting to any given situation. If a guy foresees that he cannot survive without knowing swimming, he will somehow learn that otherwise he is going to die. On other hand, the best swimmer in the world also cannot afford to swim for years just because he knows swimming. If you drop him in ocean with others, may be he will survive for longer time but he will seek for a life jacket or rescue sometime or later.
My whole point is everyone starts with optimistic approach when he starts. Show me one person who lands in US with pessimistic approach. You, me and all of our friends landed here with great vision for our life and career. The situation, surroundings, family issues, other personel issues drag him little by little to pessimistic way when he does not reach his set goals in time and instead stinks in the same spot having the required qualities to further his/her career and family.
A question for you: I know you will get married if you are not now and may have one kid at least at age 35. What will you be doing if you are here then without filing for 485. Will you have the same LEVEL of optimistic thinking? Answer honestly.
I am in my late 20's and am going to finish my 7th year next month...you decide how many feet of water I am in..:rolleyes: Meanwhile I totally understand your argument that the situation is the most frustrating for people who have been here the longest. I'd say sharpen you swimming skills and then it wouldn't matter how deep the water is or how tall you are....I's say stick with it and endure hardship if you value the end result (GC ofcourse). Even if you decide to go back...whatever your age/experience be...never forget its never too late..Gandhi was 46 years old when he returned to India from SA after spending 22 years there..Still wasn't too late for him to start a revolution now... or was it ?:)
May be you might also want to change your handle...GCby3000 doesn't sound that optimistic
Good you are in your late 20's. I am in my early 30's. Even 1-2 years makes huge difference for this GC. If I had the qualities of Gandhi, I would have not been here in this forum. Dont forget to call him as MAHATHMA Gandhi. I dont think there is even one MAHATHMA's here. All here are poor ATHMA's. Humans are great in adapting to any given situation. If a guy foresees that he cannot survive without knowing swimming, he will somehow learn that otherwise he is going to die. On other hand, the best swimmer in the world also cannot afford to swim for years just because he knows swimming. If you drop him in ocean with others, may be he will survive for longer time but he will seek for a life jacket or rescue sometime or later.
My whole point is everyone starts with optimistic approach when he starts. Show me one person who lands in US with pessimistic approach. You, me and all of our friends landed here with great vision for our life and career. The situation, surroundings, family issues, other personel issues drag him little by little to pessimistic way when he does not reach his set goals in time and instead stinks in the same spot having the required qualities to further his/her career and family.
A question for you: I know you will get married if you are not now and may have one kid at least at age 35. What will you be doing if you are here then without filing for 485. Will you have the same LEVEL of optimistic thinking? Answer honestly.
I am in my late 20's and am going to finish my 7th year next month...you decide how many feet of water I am in..:rolleyes: Meanwhile I totally understand your argument that the situation is the most frustrating for people who have been here the longest. I'd say sharpen you swimming skills and then it wouldn't matter how deep the water is or how tall you are....I's say stick with it and endure hardship if you value the end result (GC ofcourse). Even if you decide to go back...whatever your age/experience be...never forget its never too late..Gandhi was 46 years old when he returned to India from SA after spending 22 years there..Still wasn't too late for him to start a revolution now... or was it ?:)
May be you might also want to change your handle...GCby3000 doesn't sound that optimistic
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walking_dude
10-15 09:53 AM
Mea Culpa. I'm the culprit here :).
I requested for the meeting close to weekend. It turned out some other new chapters were also in the same boat. Core put us together in the same call, which helped, as our issues are more or less the same. Timing was inconvenient for cagedcactus due to personal reasons. Yet he participated (which we should appreciate). Some veterans also nearly-missed the call as everything got finalized a few hours before it.
Regarding nearby states, we can try to accomodate Indiana (IN) and Ohio (OH), and my be Wisconsin (WI), the states that border Michigan, that is if they already don't have an active chapter.
I missed it, not aware of it, not sure why. I am glad to see this chapter grow. There was a time where we were searching for folks with torchlights. Thanks to Chintu, walking_dude, cagedcactus, bestin and all others who are now making this happen.
I have a very close friend in Michigan, and asked him to join, but he talks about all hardships, about his HR manager, about his company, about his lawyer, about everything except IV stuff. I am sure there are many more people here doing the same thing. We have to motivate folks to come forward. We cannot afford to have people who are inactive.
Good luck to you all, try to merge folks from nearby states if they are still not organized until they get organized.
I requested for the meeting close to weekend. It turned out some other new chapters were also in the same boat. Core put us together in the same call, which helped, as our issues are more or less the same. Timing was inconvenient for cagedcactus due to personal reasons. Yet he participated (which we should appreciate). Some veterans also nearly-missed the call as everything got finalized a few hours before it.
Regarding nearby states, we can try to accomodate Indiana (IN) and Ohio (OH), and my be Wisconsin (WI), the states that border Michigan, that is if they already don't have an active chapter.
I missed it, not aware of it, not sure why. I am glad to see this chapter grow. There was a time where we were searching for folks with torchlights. Thanks to Chintu, walking_dude, cagedcactus, bestin and all others who are now making this happen.
I have a very close friend in Michigan, and asked him to join, but he talks about all hardships, about his HR manager, about his company, about his lawyer, about everything except IV stuff. I am sure there are many more people here doing the same thing. We have to motivate folks to come forward. We cannot afford to have people who are inactive.
Good luck to you all, try to merge folks from nearby states if they are still not organized until they get organized.
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pmmo
10-19 12:36 PM
Sorry that I could not reply sooner. In this case, I went ahead and did an Info Pass appointment. The officer there went ahead and gave a 1-year temporary stamp and said he was ordering card production. This was in July and I am still waiting. My lawyer said "congrats"! No idea how to handle this going forward. What happened to your case?
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Dont think, JUST press this sequence and you will be connected to a Customer Service REP.
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leoindiano
02-24 05:26 PM
I am on EAD, I marched to capitol building in DC for the relief i got, I support this admin fix effort...Count me in for anything you plan to do...
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Dakota Newfie
02-13 07:19 AM
I am a healthcare professional on an H-1B because I am not a nurse nor a PT so I don't fit into that elite Schedule A Club! Ironically, there is a far greater shortage of professionals in my field than in nursing (PT's are still in high demand), but I don't qualify for Schedule A so I'm stuck between two worlds. To be quite honest, I'd rather be stuck in limbo with you guys than to be grouped with them any way! Keep hoping, keep smiling and something good will happen!
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Did you atleast get the Biometrics appointment? Looks like the e-filing is taking more time.
Hi,
I e-filed my EAD renewal on May 9th...sent documents to TSC...there were couple of LUDs but not EAD yet.
Hi,
I e-filed my EAD renewal on May 9th...sent documents to TSC...there were couple of LUDs but not EAD yet.
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kalyan
05-21 11:38 AM
recently they were worked or worked to accomodate people working in US Army to be eligible if one in their family has ITIN.
Then why there are not looking at Legal Immigrants.
Then why there are not looking at Legal Immigrants.
Jaime
09-20 11:48 AM
Jaime, your thought of having one more rally in Silicon Valley is a good one but again you are going to have the same crowd..!!
People in neighbouring states of DC did not make it , you tthink they will make it all the way to west coast! very doubtful!!
We should aim at bringing in more people to this family as possible..
Looks like a simultaneous rally on a weekend will be very effective!
And this time for the rally we will carry one one slogan banners
'SHORTEN THE WAIT FOR LEGAL IMMIGRANTS' or something similar!
just a thought!
I was thinking Silicon Valley because many of us live there and the folks there are very proactive! (Look at how well California did in DC!!) and the first San Jose rally went great even with the short planning time. I was thinking that with more planning time and with a lot of proactive people who already live there it would be easier to get much bigger crowds! We didn't have 1000s of people from California in DC only because they are the farthest away which makes it hard for many of them to attend.
People in neighbouring states of DC did not make it , you tthink they will make it all the way to west coast! very doubtful!!
We should aim at bringing in more people to this family as possible..
Looks like a simultaneous rally on a weekend will be very effective!
And this time for the rally we will carry one one slogan banners
'SHORTEN THE WAIT FOR LEGAL IMMIGRANTS' or something similar!
just a thought!
I was thinking Silicon Valley because many of us live there and the folks there are very proactive! (Look at how well California did in DC!!) and the first San Jose rally went great even with the short planning time. I was thinking that with more planning time and with a lot of proactive people who already live there it would be easier to get much bigger crowds! We didn't have 1000s of people from California in DC only because they are the farthest away which makes it hard for many of them to attend.
chanduv23
09-04 01:01 PM
People just don't want to soil their hands in cleaning their house but want others to do it for them.
Lot of people consider it below dignity to do something about GC related stuff, many just want to live they way they are, no ambitions, no motivation to work towards a change.
Lot of people consider it below dignity to do something about GC related stuff, many just want to live they way they are, no ambitions, no motivation to work towards a change.
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